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be any different than obama in the first but in any case there are many ways to get out of the tree or to continue the retore doing anything don't forget also that domestically and yelled most probably last in l.a. for it take namely the minister of defense barak who in the recent days or weeks sound all of a sudden different and then a three hour is really quite isolated even though mystically so all of this together will have to bring some kind of getting down of the tree and pulling. this thing keeping it because they totally good reason because saying that this served this well this two years of certainly spreading fear has to continue into. fire until something will happen you know do you think netanyahu is just terrified of obama second it ministration because of the bad personal relationship they have had and let's face it netanyahu snubbed obama a number of times and his administration i'm pretty sure the administration would like to see the end of mr netanyahu. yes i have but about i don't think that's on yahoo i don't think it matters to him i think he knows that anyone kn
be any different than obama in the first but in any case there are many ways to get out of the tree or to continue the retore doing anything don't forget also that domestically and yelled most probably last in l.a. for it take namely the minister of defense barak who in the recent days or weeks sound all of a sudden different and then a three hour is really quite isolated even though mystically so all of this together will have to bring some kind of getting down of the tree and pulling. this...
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talk about pandering to middle aged women voters obama so obama was only in new york for twenty four hours and decided to go on the view instead of meet one on one with any foreign leaders at the u.n. meetings i guess it's more important to work with whoopi goldberg instead is this obama's idea of campaigning sitting on the view talking about how hot he is what i can't he is trying to distinguish himself from his opponent and he is much more personable and in touch with voters than his counterpart well according to a recent new york times in-depth investigation there are some strikingly significant similarities between the two candidates like college spicy chicken and star trek can you believe it oh there's more the article cites they could compare counties visited in iowa activists fawned over in new hampshire and irritations of dealing with blowhard colleagues and state government they can exchange trivia about star trek liked by both or complaints about the press disliked by both. wowo look at how much they have in common just like a lot of human beings i know they both went to co
talk about pandering to middle aged women voters obama so obama was only in new york for twenty four hours and decided to go on the view instead of meet one on one with any foreign leaders at the u.n. meetings i guess it's more important to work with whoopi goldberg instead is this obama's idea of campaigning sitting on the view talking about how hot he is what i can't he is trying to distinguish himself from his opponent and he is much more personable and in touch with voters than his...
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american prison there been repeated calls for the notorious for its syllabi to be shot down with barack obama promising to close it during his initial election campaign one hundred sixty seven detainees remain at the facility. somalia's all qaeda linked militants have been driven out of their last urban stronghold. the operation came after african union troops shelled the city and attacked the airport al-shabaab insurgents lost control of the capital mogadishu last year kis mile was the last port they controlled. as the internet becomes more readily available across the arab world is giving rise to a generation of hackers eager to break free of government censorship with the help of cyber weapons but as art has polls they are reports some activists quote end up being used by the authorities to pull the strings and promote their own agenda. each day across the world millions of fingers fly across keyboards with the power to break through some of the toughest security fire walls this is the most powerful weapon streams of darter flashing across the computer screens of the world in the blink of
american prison there been repeated calls for the notorious for its syllabi to be shot down with barack obama promising to close it during his initial election campaign one hundred sixty seven detainees remain at the facility. somalia's all qaeda linked militants have been driven out of their last urban stronghold. the operation came after african union troops shelled the city and attacked the airport al-shabaab insurgents lost control of the capital mogadishu last year kis mile was the last...
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question the europeans can save themselves if they so choose ok we're talking about saving countries obama reelection definitely yeah sure ok where is russia's position in this volatile old place it's always been it is a major developing economy it's halfway between asia and europe it grows much faster than belgium much lower than china yeah the story is unchanged it continues to grow and develop it's being slowed down by the problems but that's all that's just having to wait a month point of using. bad idea quantitative easing probably necessary but you're going to have to get off it at some point ok and the attractiveness last question the attractiveness of emerging markets is. terrible except that they're better than any other markets out there worth being rebuilt and they were emerging markets are taking their rightful place and people have to wake up to that ok now we're also joined by simon fenton fletcher he's a portfolio manager with renaissance asset management before we go to my two other guests here let's take a look at russia's turn to the east.
question the europeans can save themselves if they so choose ok we're talking about saving countries obama reelection definitely yeah sure ok where is russia's position in this volatile old place it's always been it is a major developing economy it's halfway between asia and europe it grows much faster than belgium much lower than china yeah the story is unchanged it continues to grow and develop it's being slowed down by the problems but that's all that's just having to wait a month point of...
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president barack obama setting the mood by reiterating his commitment to forcing bashar asad to go in. term qatar one of the states believed to be supplying the syrian rebels with weapons called on arab nations to intervene in syria bypassing the world body. has been calling the hottest year being addressed in new york to now. every world leader or high figure that took to the podium at the united nations general assembly on tuesday did address the crisis in syria the secretary general ban ki-moon described the war in syria as a regional calamity with global ramifications he urged the international community to act quickly with consensus before he says the crisis spirals out of control some western leaders took a more aggressive approach with their rhetoric french president francois hollande said that the syrian government of bashar assad has no future are among the international community and called on the un to immediately pride protections for the syrian opposition groups that are currently occupying the northern part of the country u.s. president barack obama also released some cr
president barack obama setting the mood by reiterating his commitment to forcing bashar asad to go in. term qatar one of the states believed to be supplying the syrian rebels with weapons called on arab nations to intervene in syria bypassing the world body. has been calling the hottest year being addressed in new york to now. every world leader or high figure that took to the podium at the united nations general assembly on tuesday did address the crisis in syria the secretary general ban...
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president barack obama also released some criticism additional criticism of bashar al assad saying that time has come for his government to go and the u.s. president also said that the international community should support the vision that the syrians have for the future of their country now we do know that the u.s. and its western allies have been pushing for regime change in syria have been pushing for sanctions against syria russia is among the countries that believes diplomatic approach taken to the crisis in syria where i dialogue between the government and the opposition house to be created the united nations is still divide. it over how to resolve the problem in syria and i world leaders i won't be the only ones addressing those gathered at the un headquarters in new york julian sun still hiding deep inside the ecuadorian embassy in london despite his status as a political refugee will also make an appearance though a video link here at r.t. that we will bring you exclusively that live on wednesday at ten thirty pm g.m.t. . was. i here i i. i i. i know it's only ten minutes past
president barack obama also released some criticism additional criticism of bashar al assad saying that time has come for his government to go and the u.s. president also said that the international community should support the vision that the syrians have for the future of their country now we do know that the u.s. and its western allies have been pushing for regime change in syria have been pushing for sanctions against syria russia is among the countries that believes diplomatic approach...
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and i will always defend their right to do so obama also pledged his support for arab spring nations like egypt and libya however when egypt's new president spoke at the un for the first time mohamed morsi said free speech will not be accepted as a free pass to insult islam holy prophet. the obscenities recently released as part of an organized campaign against islamic center is unacceptable and requires a firm stand egypt respects freedom of expression one that is not directed towards one specific religion or culture but the opening of the u.n. general assembly is usually criticized as political theater with a lot of talk this year however there was no talking with u.s. president barack obama the leader of the country hosting the un left immediately after his speech on day one and held no bilateral meetings on day to the eighth and final speech of the always controversial iranian leader so accusations of corrupt western politics and a subtle tipping of the hat to the occupy wall street movement are we to believe that those who spend hundreds of millions of dollars in election campai
and i will always defend their right to do so obama also pledged his support for arab spring nations like egypt and libya however when egypt's new president spoke at the un for the first time mohamed morsi said free speech will not be accepted as a free pass to insult islam holy prophet. the obscenities recently released as part of an organized campaign against islamic center is unacceptable and requires a firm stand egypt respects freedom of expression one that is not directed towards one...
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austerity bites and spain's informal war protest vein while the people of california prostrate obama driven postcards seek to find their own way. and more young people in the u.k. are finding themselves without warble prospects with university graduate struggling to pay their bills. it is love em the russian capital you're watching with me marina joshie states that back syrian opposition groups are pushing the country even deeper into crisis as russia's foreign minister says the floor at the un general sam sergei lavrov said a comprehensive cease fire was needed to stop the violence he also urged the u.n. security council to resume debate on the humanitarian limits to sanctions. as the details from new york. russia's foreign minister sergei lavrov talks about a variety of issues but clearly syria dominated his speech foreign minister lavrov says he believes and russia believes there's still an opportunity to and the conflict in crisis in syria but it will require some fierce international consensus he says the international community must come together to demand a cease fire in syria
austerity bites and spain's informal war protest vein while the people of california prostrate obama driven postcards seek to find their own way. and more young people in the u.k. are finding themselves without warble prospects with university graduate struggling to pay their bills. it is love em the russian capital you're watching with me marina joshie states that back syrian opposition groups are pushing the country even deeper into crisis as russia's foreign minister says the floor at the un...
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security reasons but the country's main stockpile remains in tact and under government control president obama said the threat of chemical weapons could be a red line for the u.s. to act in syria this has washington pledged additional aunt a million dollar aid to the syrian opposition to help fight against us it would go analyst says u.s. intentions in the region are driving syria further from a peaceful solution. well it's a standard policy of the u.s. government it is it is designed to oust rulers of regimes that are independent of what might be called a us military empire and replace them with pro-u.s. rulers so we have the dichotomy of supporting dictators in country they're loyal to the us government and trying to oust dictators that are not loyal to the us government the u.s. is committed to the ouster of the assad regime and whenever you hear the united nations it's just designed for the american taxpayer the american voter create the appearance that the u.s. is interested in spreading democracy and freedom when in fact it has a long history of supporting dictatorial regimes in saudi ar
security reasons but the country's main stockpile remains in tact and under government control president obama said the threat of chemical weapons could be a red line for the u.s. to act in syria this has washington pledged additional aunt a million dollar aid to the syrian opposition to help fight against us it would go analyst says u.s. intentions in the region are driving syria further from a peaceful solution. well it's a standard policy of the u.s. government it is it is designed to oust...
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was netanyahu is turn to take center stage forget obama forget morsi forget okrent is out he said this is my time to shine so what did he do well he pretty much gave a presentation on the biggest danger facing humanity right now take a look. at it. here's a dog. this is a bomb. this is a fuse. in the case of iran's nuclear plans to build a bomb. this bomb has to be filled. with enough food which are really. quite so let me get this straight and animated bomb is our biggest threat right now maybe i just have one thing as stated on. the supreme leader i think it helps some of your information about bombs is coming from those folks it was a cartoon bomb the charade didn't stop there nope he was on a roll check it out. for sure to read. laundry draw. a red learn should be grown right here. before. before you run completes the second stage of nuclear enrichment. necessary to make a bomb so netanyahu is the world he was the teacher and the entire general assembly of world leaders were his fifth grade students class here's my bomb here's the feel here's the red magic marker and this is how we
was netanyahu is turn to take center stage forget obama forget morsi forget okrent is out he said this is my time to shine so what did he do well he pretty much gave a presentation on the biggest danger facing humanity right now take a look. at it. here's a dog. this is a bomb. this is a fuse. in the case of iran's nuclear plans to build a bomb. this bomb has to be filled. with enough food which are really. quite so let me get this straight and animated bomb is our biggest threat right now...
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and let's not under play this cabin i mean this is a huge stage for anyone this is where president obama spoke yesterday president of iran and egypt smoke today for julian assange to be speaking here i mean if you say you're hoping that he's going to recruit that you think he's hoping that he's going to recruit some support for his case do you think he'll be successful in that. i think i mean there's going to be a dual opportunity that the science has i mean it says that he's going to get many people in the world who have done of the of this information that has been revealed let's not doubt the fact that leaders of these countries that got the doing behind closed doors had some kind of benefit in their policy making in the way that they want about diplomatic relations i think it definitely gave people in other countries an edge in diplomatic conversations with the united states but also just meant that there may be some more to speech in that it could be talking about freedom talking about transparency talking about these different causes issues taken up that there could be well there's
and let's not under play this cabin i mean this is a huge stage for anyone this is where president obama spoke yesterday president of iran and egypt smoke today for julian assange to be speaking here i mean if you say you're hoping that he's going to recruit that you think he's hoping that he's going to recruit some support for his case do you think he'll be successful in that. i think i mean there's going to be a dual opportunity that the science has i mean it says that he's going to get many...
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president barack obama also released some criticism additional criticism of bashar al assad saying that time has come for his government to go and the u.s. president also said that the international community should support the vision that the syrians have for the future of their country now we do know that the u.s. and its western allies have been pushing for regime change in syria have been pushing for sanctions against syria russia is among the countries that believes diplomatic approach taken to the crisis in syria were a dialogue between the government and the opposition house to be created the united nations is still divided over how to resolve the problem in syria. now reporting there well russia reaffirmed its commitment to peace efforts in syria's foreign minister sergey lavrov un special envoy lakhdar brahimi on the sidelines of the gathering and promised full support for his mission and commenting on the western proposals and syria voiced at the un dr khan holland from foreign policy in focus said it's a persistent call for regime change that brought the situation to a stalem
president barack obama also released some criticism additional criticism of bashar al assad saying that time has come for his government to go and the u.s. president also said that the international community should support the vision that the syrians have for the future of their country now we do know that the u.s. and its western allies have been pushing for regime change in syria have been pushing for sanctions against syria russia is among the countries that believes diplomatic approach...
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suddenly the popular kids are revealed as being the jerks during his first speech of the year when obama was a kid for a ride stepping on a welcome mat but lately his classmates are beginning to rot in the face of the us as it becomes clear that the alleged bad kid is really just the class clown. when you have the united states directly occupying two countries and militarily involved barely covertly and half a dozen others and trying to gin up. revolution in syria and it's the iran thing just seems to be crossing a line fights between classmates come and go but the cheerleaders are always there rooting for their team c.n.n. just replays constantly obama's speech and and it's constantly you know analyzing what he said and they're ignoring what the other one hundred ninety two countries leaders are talking about and while the high school students aren't making the grades if these guys had to get together for. nine months and just sit there and hash it out and they weren't allowed to go home until they worked stuff out it would be a different you have a different outcome at least the kids a
suddenly the popular kids are revealed as being the jerks during his first speech of the year when obama was a kid for a ride stepping on a welcome mat but lately his classmates are beginning to rot in the face of the us as it becomes clear that the alleged bad kid is really just the class clown. when you have the united states directly occupying two countries and militarily involved barely covertly and half a dozen others and trying to gin up. revolution in syria and it's the iran thing just...
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american prison there have been repeated calls for the notorious facility to be shut down with barack obama promising to close it during his initial election campaign one hundred sixty seven detainees remain at the facility in. somalia as al qaida linked militants have been driven out of their last urban stronghold the operational came after african union troops shelled the city an attack to the airport all shabaab insurgents lost control of the capital mogadishu last year to smile was the last port they controlled. there with r.t. and in just a few moments it's over to lauren lister for the latest episode of capital count this time focusing on the legacy of the financial crisis. it's perched atop a jar and the view from the kremlin stretches as far as the eye can see. for a city of siberia for centuries. it lost its economic importance even before it was bypassed by the chance i bear in railway but the a spiritual. things like these are a yearly occurrence thousands of worshippers implicity walter to commemorate the baptism of jesus. in the fifteen eighties the russians had only just conqu
american prison there have been repeated calls for the notorious facility to be shut down with barack obama promising to close it during his initial election campaign one hundred sixty seven detainees remain at the facility in. somalia as al qaida linked militants have been driven out of their last urban stronghold the operational came after african union troops shelled the city an attack to the airport all shabaab insurgents lost control of the capital mogadishu last year to smile was the last...
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american prison there have been calls repeated calls for the notorious facility to be shut down but barack obama promising to close it during his initial election campaign one hundred sixty seven detainees remain at incivility. here with r.t. and in just a few moments the darkest secrets of the world's financial power players are revealed in the kaiser report. in this remote siberians in which people still sing the songs which russians sang in the middle ages and they cherish the nation practice that our church before the seventeenth century the old believers here is signed area our conservative community they're known as the simi skia a word which refers to family. the day believe me there yet i feel. i know i'm the first to tell you that. i. people here are happy to show their way of life to tourists and to show them how to dance in the local star. use of prayer and the girl needs to watch her legs don't go up too much during the dance she must be a modest. seventeen year old nanda is from the same village she now studies in the city and dances at a club. she puts on her costume and the tradit
american prison there have been calls repeated calls for the notorious facility to be shut down but barack obama promising to close it during his initial election campaign one hundred sixty seven detainees remain at incivility. here with r.t. and in just a few moments the darkest secrets of the world's financial power players are revealed in the kaiser report. in this remote siberians in which people still sing the songs which russians sang in the middle ages and they cherish the nation...
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president obama speaks about the freedom of speech at the u.n. general assembly but considering the past year and in particular the case against p.f.c. bradley manning and wiki leaks founder julian assange on just this a case of do as i say not as i do. meet and greet and come to new york and shop and then they go home you know at tremendous cost to their old taxpayers without very much done and we know the annual assembly is supposed to harness international cooperation but some argue that this meeting is a waste of time and money i had little find out what if anything can get accomplished here. i get the feeling take a look at this that mitt romney has not been in too many too many while was also on the road side in the survey and you. don't believe everything you see on t.v. it turns out sixty percent of americans don't put much stock in the mainstream media coming up we'll ask why your confidence has fallen and where americans are turning. it's tuesday september twenty fifth four pm here in washington d.c. i'm liz wahl and you're watching our
president obama speaks about the freedom of speech at the u.n. general assembly but considering the past year and in particular the case against p.f.c. bradley manning and wiki leaks founder julian assange on just this a case of do as i say not as i do. meet and greet and come to new york and shop and then they go home you know at tremendous cost to their old taxpayers without very much done and we know the annual assembly is supposed to harness international cooperation but some argue that...
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general assembly and his speech a song challenge obama to live up to the same words that he had just delivered the night before in front of the entire world when he said those in power have the resist the temptation to crackdown on dissent check it out. that's why i'm so worried and there are times when action. the time for words has run out. it is time for the u.s. to cease its persecution over he waits to see if persecution about people and to cease its persecution over all lives sources it is time for president obama to do the right thing and join the forces of change not in following words in following deeds. thank you. i wonder if president obama is ever heard of the old idiom actions speak louder than words you know it's a good one to live by because a leader is not measured for his rhetoric but rather for his deeds so that's your challenge president obama stop your crusade against julia song it's time to lead by example lead by action. i. i know europe seems to be in shambles these days in spain thousands of protesters took to madrid's plaza de neptune to demonstrate against y
general assembly and his speech a song challenge obama to live up to the same words that he had just delivered the night before in front of the entire world when he said those in power have the resist the temptation to crackdown on dissent check it out. that's why i'm so worried and there are times when action. the time for words has run out. it is time for the u.s. to cease its persecution over he waits to see if persecution about people and to cease its persecution over all lives sources it...
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president obama may have laid some groundwork for the arab spring for example by going to cairo in two thousand and nine and basically telling the arab people to tear down their dictators but wiki leaks journalism is what really lit the fuse wiki leaks released information about the president of tunisia's kleptocratic greed and massive corruption two weeks later a young street vendor set himself on fire sparking the revolution in tunisia wiki leaks released information about the greed and corruption of kleptocrat moammar gadhafi and his sons in libya and soon that country was swept up in a revolution as well and it was wiki leaks which released information about a gyptian president hosni mubarak's plan to never leave office despite the so-called presidential elections coming up and soon enough half a million people were occupying to or square demanding a revolution one that they actually eventually got that's the power of journalism in the internet age that's the power of wiki leaks which brings us to i julian and songes stuck in the ecuadorian embassy in london. is not wanted by arab
president obama may have laid some groundwork for the arab spring for example by going to cairo in two thousand and nine and basically telling the arab people to tear down their dictators but wiki leaks journalism is what really lit the fuse wiki leaks released information about the president of tunisia's kleptocratic greed and massive corruption two weeks later a young street vendor set himself on fire sparking the revolution in tunisia wiki leaks released information about the greed and...
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obama did not disappear the. last elections in iran if united states did play a more active role it would play against it would hurt the movement which he very much supported the server which it is a basically real concern. yes ok go. ahead the u.s. needs to prop up a dictator if it in any way will be better for israel and so by ruthie's prescription the united states should have found another shot for around the united states should have created a clone of hosni mubarak the united states should have basically supported any dictatorship that lost the support of its people if it were better for israel and unfortunately you know you see the same sort of anti-democratic for and desire to support israel even in the united states i mean you should play that clip of where the democratic party delegates at their national convention are saying we don't recognize israel's illegal annexation of east jerusalem we don't want that in our democratic party plank and yet they were steamrolled by people within the democratic part
obama did not disappear the. last elections in iran if united states did play a more active role it would play against it would hurt the movement which he very much supported the server which it is a basically real concern. yes ok go. ahead the u.s. needs to prop up a dictator if it in any way will be better for israel and so by ruthie's prescription the united states should have found another shot for around the united states should have created a clone of hosni mubarak the united states...
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president barack obama and the french president said just twenty four hours ago the u.s. and its western allies are very much pushing for or charlotte assad the president of syria to step down they've all said in different words that his time to go is now and that he and his government do not belong in the international community leader of the representative of qatar just twenty four hours ago say that if the special envoy to syria cannot find a peaceful resolution to the problem then plan b. should be a no fly zone the last time there was a no fly zone approved by the security council that led to military intervention into libya so this is a serious issue and we do know the position of the u.s. of friends of britain that have been pushing for the charlotte side and his government to go in supporting the syrian opposition now russia's foreign minister sergei lavrov said that it's quite concerning that western countries who are supporting the syrian opposition are increasingly turning the other way when violence and bloodshed is being perpetrated by rebels he said that thi
president barack obama and the french president said just twenty four hours ago the u.s. and its western allies are very much pushing for or charlotte assad the president of syria to step down they've all said in different words that his time to go is now and that he and his government do not belong in the international community leader of the representative of qatar just twenty four hours ago say that if the special envoy to syria cannot find a peaceful resolution to the problem then plan b....
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as president obama orders a chinese company to abandon an american investment. also on our website for small children will have just spent a year apart from their russian mother has finished its falsely accuse their family of child abuse find out why it happened on archie dot com. a hundred thousand opposition supporters have rallied in the georgian capital tbilisi as the country gears up for parliamentary elections on monday the leaders of the opposition announced at the demonstration their shore of their victory but president saakashvili is ruling party still controls nearly eighty percent of the parliament and is ahead in the polls that's despite its campaign having that been hit hard by corruption allegations and a prison abuse scandal which brought down cabinet ministers and triggered mass protests the government has also been trying to boost its ratings as some claim at the expense of a neighboring country here's artes you go to school. the outcome of a recent alleged police operation near georgia's border with russia's republic of dagestan eleven suspecte
as president obama orders a chinese company to abandon an american investment. also on our website for small children will have just spent a year apart from their russian mother has finished its falsely accuse their family of child abuse find out why it happened on archie dot com. a hundred thousand opposition supporters have rallied in the georgian capital tbilisi as the country gears up for parliamentary elections on monday the leaders of the opposition announced at the demonstration their...
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president barack obama addressed the u.n. general assembly calling for an end to the government of bashar al assad syria's current president in addition to america's position the leaders of britain and france also took to the podium addressing the international body and echoing the sentiments made by their. american counterpart so there you have it it was just the most recent conversation taking place in the security council once again on syria a crisis that has been developing for more than eighteen months and still a huge division among the international community. to course want to marina porter now the iranian leader also warned against foreign action in syria after he addressed the world leaders at the general assembly mahmoud ahmadinejad criticized western policies while calling for a new world order and fresh thinking the u.s. and israel in turn boycotted his speech with the canadian delegations walking out of the chamber in protest. from the national iranian american council believe such reactions are made in. the wal
president barack obama addressed the u.n. general assembly calling for an end to the government of bashar al assad syria's current president in addition to america's position the leaders of britain and france also took to the podium addressing the international body and echoing the sentiments made by their. american counterpart so there you have it it was just the most recent conversation taking place in the security council once again on syria a crisis that has been developing for more than...
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to president obama and the u.s. from the one hand things things are very lovely then the principles of freedom of speech at the same time can burst the plastic eating whistle blowers know he spoke not only about his own battle but about the wider implications that this could have if the us continue along this cools the days if he can ease even the details of chile in the sun to casey before given the media coverage a bit has been very confusing at times now a t.v. in the sun for the founder of wiki leaks and wanted in sweden for questioning able sexual assault allegations that some of the soldiers critics say that him and his legal team are claiming asylum from acquittal or attempting in some way to evade justice not kill innocents in the secrecy with the very a bit about the fact that they they want the questioning to go ahead they're ready to face up to that of the people they decide they want to share whether they lead. you know we simply be like documents that came from the u.s. that will reveal the fact that ju
to president obama and the u.s. from the one hand things things are very lovely then the principles of freedom of speech at the same time can burst the plastic eating whistle blowers know he spoke not only about his own battle but about the wider implications that this could have if the us continue along this cools the days if he can ease even the details of chile in the sun to casey before given the media coverage a bit has been very confusing at times now a t.v. in the sun for the founder of...